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When can I start flying?
It
is our intent to have our students start flying as soon as possible.
There are many factors that enter into when they will or can start
flying. Our primary concern is that they will succeed when they
do start flying. A new student just beginning the program will start
flying at the same time they are attending the Private Pilot ground
school (AVN 104). A student who wishes to being flight training
in the Instrument flight course (AVN 209) will need to have begun
their ground school course (AVN 208) prior to any flight training.
A student who wishes to begin flight training in the Commercial
flight course (AVN 212) will need to have begun their ground school
course (AVN 211) prior to any flight training.
We have about 25 new students each fall, some of these choose not
to fly their first semester wanting to acclimate to college life
and some will not meet the Aviation Department's pre-requisites
or co-requisites. If a student wants to begin flight training after
the semester has started and meets the requirements they may have
the opportunity to begin flight training mid-semester, schedule
permitting, or they may to elect to defer their flight training
until the next academic semester.
What is the cost of tuition?
How do I get in-state tuition?
How
much does each flight course cost?
Flight
training fees are in addition to college tuition and fees. The cost
of training in each course is based on several factors including
Federal Aviation Administration mandated minimum requirements. It
is our intent to provide each student every opportunity to complete
a flight training course during one calendar year, and often within
one semester. A student's ability, illness, personal considerations,
weather, finances and their own motivation are only a few of the
factors that determine the length of time necessary to complete
a flight course. The costs shown here
are based on the minimum cost of completion for each course of training
offered at Farmingdale State College.
How do we pay for the flight Aero Fee?
There are several federally subsidized programs available to assist
you or your child in obtaining a college education. In addition
to the federal programs there are a number of commercial sources
available to cover those unmet needs. The College has a listing
of a large number of scholarships available at the Financial Aid
Office. Please go to this
website
to view information regarding the financial aid and scholarships
available at Farmingdale State College.
Once funds are secured money for flight training is deposited
directly into the student's Aero Fee Account via Student Accounts.
That account is used as a debit account for all Flight, Simulator,
& Ground Training activities at the Aviation Center. The cost
for flight training is $9,000 per academic semester. A fee of
$9,000 will automatically be charged to your tuition by the Office
of Student Accounts at the beginning of each semester you are
enrolled in the Pro-Pilot program. Each academic semester a deposit
of $9,000 is made to the Aero Fee Account. In the event your flight
fees exceed this amount you will need to deposit additional funds
during the semester to continue flight training. If a balance
remains on your Aero Fee account at the end of the semester it
will be “rolled over” and you will be able to use these funds
toward flight training for the next semester, and for advanced
flight certification. You will be charged the $9,000 flight fees
each semester, regardless of what your left over Aero Fee balance
is. At the completion of flight training or upon withdrawal from
the program, a refund is made for any unused funds remaining in
your Aero Fee account.
How
do I register for flying?
Students
are required to sign up for a Flight Block through student registration
just as they would for any other academic class. Registration may
be accomplished online via OASIS
on a space available basis. When space is limited, registration
will take place by consultation with the Director of Operations.
Flight blocks meet three times per week for the duration of the
semester. During the semester the Aviation Center operates six days
per week from 0700 - 2000 local time. Students are expected to arrive
at least 30 minutes prior to their scheduled Flight Block time to
complete the necessary preflight preparation in anticipation of
their upcoming flight activity. Since daylight is required to accomplish
many VFR maneuvers, students in AVN 105, 106, 212, 310, or 412 are
strongly encouraged to pick Blocks 1-4. Students enrolled in the
Instrument flight course (AVN 209) are encouraged to select Block
5. Flight Blocks are listed as Aviation Course AVN 094 and are as
follows:
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BLOCK #
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DAYS
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START TIME
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END TIME
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1
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MWF
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0700
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0915
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2
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MWF
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0930
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1145
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3
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MWF
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1215
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1430
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4
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MWF
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1445
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1700
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5
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MWF
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1715
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1930
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1
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TRS
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0700
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0915
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2
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TRS
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0930
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1145
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3
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TRS
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1215
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1430
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4
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TRS
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1445
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1700
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5
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TRS
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1715
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1930
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I
am enrolled in a flight course. When does my flying have to be completed?
Your
flying needs to be completed prior to the end of the twelfth (12th)
calendar month in which you registered for that flight course. Completed
means that a Practical Test was completed and a certificate or rating
was received from the FAA or Designated Pilot Examiner, if applicable.
I
already have a pilot certificate; can I receive credit?
Yes,
you may enter the Professional Pilot Program having previously earned
a pilot certificate. However, entry to the program will be limited
to students who have earned only their private pilot certificate.
If you have earned your instrument rating or commercial pilot certificate,
you will not be eligible for admission to the Pro-Pilot program
but you may continue flight training at the Aviation Center.
The Farmingdale State College Aviation Department bases its flight
education philosophy on a four-year college degree. Consequently,
students who have obtained flight certificates/ratings, with or
without college credit, may not have satisfied the academic and
flight requirements contained within the aviation major that they
are pursuing at Farmingdale State College. All aviation courses
subject to being transferred to FSC, flight or non-flight, are reviewed
by the Aviation Department for transferability. It is the responsibility
of the student to initiate a review process of transfer courses.
For questions about the transferability of courses, please contact
the Aviation Department. Students may e-mail the Aviation Department
Interim Chairperson, Dr.
Kamal Shahrabi at kamal.shahrabi@farmingdale.edu.
Please refer to: Admissions
at Farmingdale.edu
for more information on departmental and transfer policies.
Once a student has received appropriate academic credit for flight
certificates held, they will still need an evaluation conducted
by the Chief or Assistant Chief Flight Instructor to ensure the
student meets the minimum requirements set forth in the FAA Practical
Test Standards for the certificate held. This Evaluation is accomplished
by enrolling in AVN112. Contact the Aviation Center for more information.
Who provides the flight training at Farmingdale State College?
The
Aviation Center at Farmingdale State College provides all of the
flight training. The aircraft are owned by Farmingdale State College
and the instructors are employees of the College. Over 60% of our
Instructors are graduates of the Pro-Pilot program at Farmingdale
State College. All the aircraft are maintained by an in-house maintenance
department and are employees of Farmingdale State College.
What about citizenship & TSA requirements?
Proof
of US Citizenship is required prior to initiating any flight training
in the form of an unexpired US Passport, US Naturalization Certificate,
or an ORIGINAL US or Territory Birth Certificate with raised seal.
Resident Aliens should contact the Aviation Center for requirements.
Non US citizens are required to fill out an application with the
Transportation Security Administration (TSA) prior to flight training.
Students will not be allowed to fly until clearance is provided.
IT MAY TAKE UP TO 6 WEEKS FOR CLEARANCE. Information can be found
at www.flightschoolcandidates.gov
Do
I need an FAA medical certificate to enroll in the aviation program?
Yes,
a medical exam administered by an FAA Aviation Medical Examiner
is required prior to flight training. Students must be able to obtain
and maintain a 1st, 2nd or 3rd class FAA medical certificate. For
students pursuing flight as a career choice the department strongly
recommends students obtain a 1st class medical certificate. The
requirements for medical standards are listed in the Code of Federal
Regulations Title 14 Part 67 and can be found here .
To locate an Aviation Medical Examiner in your area visit http://www.faa.gov/pilots/amelocator
Students wishing to enroll in a flight course are required
to have at least a third class medical prior to beginning their
flight training at Farmingdale State College.
How
do I get an FAA medical certificate?
Aviation
medical examiners (AME's) are designated by the FAA to issue these
certificates, following completion of an application and a physical
examination. For names and addresses of AME's go to this
website.
When
should I apply for my FAA medical certificate?
There
are several reasons for which you could be denied a medical certificate
even if you feel you are in good health. These reasons have to do
with medical and/or legal problems you have had, and should be evaluated
before beginning your education for an aviation-related career.
If any of these problems need to be processed to obtain your certificate,
delays might occur. Therefore, we advise you to obtain a FAA medical
certificate before coming to Farmingdale State College. You are
required to possess a medical certificate prior to flight training,
so get your medical certificate early to avoid delays. If you have
no known medical issues, the entire process to receive a FAA medical
is relatively straightforward and should be accomplished within
a few hours. If you have a complicated medical history or any potentially
disqualifying conditions we recommend that you apply at least 3
months prior to beginning your flight class. See denial
of a medical certificate below for more information.
What
if I already have a third class medical certificate? Do I need to
get a first class certificate?
No,
a third class medical certificate is adequate to begin training.
If you intend to make flying your career or profession it would
be wise to ensure you can qualify for a first class medical prior
to investing time or money in your flight training.
Could
I be denied a medical certificate?
Certain
medical conditions and behavior problems can result in denial of
your medical certificate. If you have significant medical and/or
legal problems, you should have copies of medical and/or court records
for your examiner.
Will
my flight training be changed for inclement weather or maintenance
cancellations?
Each
flight training syllabus allows for various ground and/or simulator
activities to be accomplished during the course. Normally, training
will still be accomplished if the weather doesn't permit a flight.
The Maintenance department does an excellent job of maintaining
a high reliability rate on all the aircraft so it would be unusal
to be delayed more than a flight or two due to a maintenence occurence.
Each student's progress is continuously monitored and changes may
be made based on unusual circumstances.
What about the airspace & weather?
One
of the unique features about choosing Farmingdale State College
and flight training on Long Island is that students learn to fly
in complex airspace, four seasons and many different weather environments.
The Aviation Center is located at KFRG
-Republic Airport ,
a Class Delta airport underlying the New York Class Bravo Airspace
fifteen miles west of the Long Island MacArthur Class Charlie Airspace
offering our students the opportunity to experience various aspects
of the interacting with Air Traffic Control and the National Airspace
System. When able, students are exposed to as much flying in "actual"
weather conditions as possible during their instrument training.
This training helps them prepare for their professional careers.
In addition, there are plenty of ground and simulator activities
integrated in the training syllabus to allow for those days when
flights are not possible.
Why do I have to maintain an 80% grade average?
The flight and ground Training Course Outlines (TCOs) at Farmingdale
State College are approved by the FAA under FAR Part 141 and require
that each student pass each stage of training with an 80% or better
grade prior to moving to the next stage. In addition, our courses
require that an overall grade of an 80% or higher be maintained
in the course.
Can
I miss class to go flying?
Normally,
no. The flight courses at Farmingdale State College are treated
as courses and you will register for a Flight Block just as you
would register for any other class on campus (see above).
Our flight courses/classes are approved by the Federal Aviation
Administration and attendance in each class session is a requirement.
Missing class is also not economical nor efficient to your training.
On certain occasions, an FAA checkride for example, you might be
required to miss a class.
I've
never been in a small airplane? What do you suggest?
The
Aviation Center strongly encourages all prospective flight students
either enroll in AVN 110 - Intro to Flight or locate a flight school
near their home where they can take an introductory flight lesson.
If you have the passion and desire for flight, you probably will
love the experience. However, some people do realize that although
they have a passion for aviation, being inside a small airplane
may cause physical discomfort. It's beneficial to discover that
early, before spending thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours
flight training.
Can my parent/guardian or roommate participate with me on a flight
lesson?
Due
to the intensity of each flight lesson we do not recommend passengers during flight
lessons. However, at the discretion of your Flight Instructor,
passengers may be allowed to observe your flight training from
the back seat of the training aircraft. The requirements to carry
passengers are available at the Aviation Center and require that
the pilot and passenger attend a briefing prior to carrying passengers.
Any Farmingdale State College student with a current RAM ID is
eligible as an observer. Immediate family members are allowed
as observers on a case by case basis.
What
about the FAA Written Test? Do you know where I take that test
? How much does it cost?
The Aviation Center
is able to offer FAA Written Testing to all students. For Farmingdale
State College students, the cost of the written tests is deducted
directly from the Aero Fee account and can be scheduled with your
flight instructor. Details on the procedure to register for a
FAA Written Test can be found here .
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